[BitVisor-devel-en:121] Re: Ho many people are active on the Bitvisor mailing lists?

[Lonnie Cumberland]

Hello Takahiro,

Thanks so very much for answering my inquiry about Bitvisor and now I 
have a bit better understanding as to its available support and how it 
is really more of a research project that various developers use as a a 
base to build from for their own projects.

I am a very long ways from any possible product and for now its more of 
a goal just to see if I can get a simple PoC (Proof-of-Concept) set up 
and working and it may not even make it to any type of product at all so 
now is more of a research project as well for me too.

My biggest concern at the moment seems to be with what I think might be 
issues with the Wireguard implementation as I do not know how to tackle 
that problem yet in that it still seems to crash the moment a web 
browser (Ubuntu 22.04) is started up but I can easily ping locations 
after the Guest OS comes up as well, but without Wireguard running and 
having Bitvisor running, then I do not have these problems.

I was also hoping that someone might be able to guide me in using the 
IPsec VPN to set up a SoftEther connection either to my SoftEther server 
or to VPN Gate so that I could test if, in fact, it is Wireguard or 
something else perhaps since I am not 100% sure on this yet.

You mentioned that Mr. Eiraku has a company that sells a product based 
upon Bitvisor and maybe that would be a good idea to look into that as 
well, but I doubt that it is open source code to expand upon, but maybe 
it could be good to look into that also and I will see what I can find 
out. Thanks for that information, my friend.

Not sure what your interests are with regards to Bitvisor, but it would 
be nice to be able to discuss these things and some ideas with others, 
perhaps like yourself, to see if we can get more interest and community 
involvement in Bitvisor and development of projects based upon it as the 
code base.

I am currently reading over the code a lot now and am trying to get a 
feel for things better, but it is still a bit of a learning curve so 
far, but am making good progress.  One thing that I am interested in 
doing as well is to possibly create loadable plugins for a number of the 
modules instead of having them put in a compile time, then I think that 
they could be added at load time instead although not during run time 
given the UEFI nature of things from what I understand so far.

Anyway, I want to sincerely Thank you for your response and maybe we can 
chat more if you are interested.

Best Regards, and have a great day,
Lonnie

On 6/17/2024 7:57 PM, Takahiro Shinagawa wrote:
> Dear Lonnie,
>
> Thank you for your interest in BitVisor. BitVisor is basically research software and is often used for special purposes. So I believe ordinary users are unlikely to use it directly, but students and developers will use it for their own projects.
>
> We ourselves are also still doing research projects using BitVisor, but they are unrelated to VPN so we do not follow that part now. I think other researchers using BitVisor (if there are any) are also busy with their own research.
>
> I know several previous studies by third parties using BitVisor, but they have never asked us questions in the MLs, so I assume they have solved the problems by themselves by reading and writing the source code.
>
> I personally would be happy If the BitVisor community becomes active. The main developer, Mr. Eiraku, often answers questions and will be happy to participate in discussions related to the essential parts of BitVisor. However, I think it is difficult to keep doing the support of using BitVisor on a volunteer basis. So basically we would have to make an effort to read and write the source code ourselves to solve the problem.
>
> One possibility is that his company sells a product based on BitVisor, so if you want to make your software into a product, it might be a good idea to negotiate a formal contract with his company to get the support.
>
> Best regards,
> Takahiro Shinagawa
>
>> 2024/06/17 21:41、Lonnie <lonnie at outstep.com>のメール:
>>
>> Hope that everyone is doing well today.
>>
>> I have sent a number of emails to the mailing list (i.e. Users and Developers lists) and have been thankful to have heard back from Hideki Eiraku on some of them.  I did not want to take up all of his time in answering my questions and receiving what I think is a bug in the Wireguard code that crashes out Bitvisor, but it seems that he is the only one that is active on the mailing lists and I want to try to get an idea as to how active these list are so that I will not post many questions if everyone is too busy or there are not a lot of users.
>>
>> I think that Bitvisor is an awesome hypervisor and with some work and modifications, I think that it will be perfect for the P2P VPN project that I have been researching for a very long time, but could use as much help and guidance as the list members are willing to provide as I would like to work closely with the Bitvisor developers to see the realization of a viable new product that will help many users wile promoting system security as well.
>>
>> Just wanted to ask this question in the hopes of working closely with the mailing list members.
>>
>> Have a great day,
>> Lonnie
>>
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